hehe nu er det en 3805 jeg har den vejer 17 kg.

Citér: Ja, så er den lille NAD vist heller ikke tungere. Til info: NAD T-742, 15 kg og Denon AVR-3803, 16,5 kg. Men det er da tankevækkende, hvis snakken skulle gå på vægt, for de store NAD er ualmindeligt tunge til prisklassen - fornemt!

Nu regnede jeg ikke T742 med, da den er blevet afløst af T743 som vejer 16,4 Kg.  

T763 vejer 20,7 Kg og T773 vejer hele 24 Kg

PS: Min egen T760 vejer ca. det samme som T743 og efter nærmere undersøgelse skyldes det en enorm trafo.

Den er vist også opgivet til at kunne levere 40A spidsstrøm. Gad vide hvad de nyere og tungere modeller kan levere?

Det er trafoen der vejer i dem allesammen, om det er NAD eller Denon.

Hvor meget spidsstrømmen er opgivet til er i og for sig ikke specielt vigtigt for den almene bruger - idag er det bare en lidt mere udbredt salgsgimmick ligesom den udprægede brug af effektopgivelser i DIN, 6 ohm osv.

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Adam skrev: Citér: Ja, så er den lille NAD vist heller ikke tungere. Til info: NAD T-742, 15 kg og Denon AVR-3803, 16,5 kg. Men det er da tankevækkende, hvis snakken skulle gå på vægt, for de store NAD er ualmindeligt tunge til prisklassen - fornemt!  Nu regnede jeg ikke T742 med, da den er blevet afløst af T743 som vejer 16,4 Kg.   T763 vejer 20,7 Kg og T773 vejer hele 24 Kg PS: Min egen T760 vejer ca. det samme som T743 og efter nærmere undersøgelse skyldes det en enorm trafo. Den er vist også opgivet til at kunne levere 40A spidsstrøm. Gad vide hvad de nyere og tungere modeller kan levere?

ja ja ja, og min Denon AVC-A1SR vejer 30 kg

Så nu har jeg været ude i haven og hente nogle sten så nu vejer den 35kg. Det må den simpelthen lyde bedre af.

FireBlade skrev: Så nu har jeg været ude i haven og hente nogle sten så nu vejer den 35kg. Det må den simpelthen lyde bedre af.

Heh, jeg tror der er noget du har misforstået, medmindre du har nogle meget specielle strømstærke sten i haven  ;)

Jeg sætter mig da bare på forstærkeren... Så vejer den 100 kg!  

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Raskolnikov skrev: Nogle close ups...pics. http://www.avbuzz.com//eq/3805/3805/1.htm Jeg syntes det nye design er fedt! Jeg kan godt lide den grønne farve omkringer power knappen. Håber at 2805 og 1805 ligner! Og lidt pics af remoten..

Det ser ud til at 2805 kommer til at ligne 3805, dog ser det ikke ud til at den får den nye fjernbetjening samt auto-opset. Frontklappen mangler også, tilgengæld er der noget der ligner et Denon link og det "grønne om powerknappen". Mit japanske er dog kun til 00 så måske ......

http://denon.jp/company/release/avc2890.html

Ok - ingen Denon link - men auto-opset er inkluderet.

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Citér: Frontklappen mangler også, tilgengæld

Bah!! det var jo ellers det der gjorde den nye Denon fed at se på i forhold til de andres knap-urskovs-look  (personlig mening, undskyld hvis jeg træder nogen over tærene).

Lang oversættelse af ovennævnte link:

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The audio video digital input terminal can be equipped even on the front, equipment such as game equipment and video camera can be connected easily. * In up-to-date 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝峨ヵ繧ｩ繝ｼ 繝槭ャ繝・full correspondence As for AVC-2890, as for DTS-ES, DTS96/24, and Dolby Digital EX Dolby Pro it corresponds LogicIIx and the like which from the first, is loaded anew to various up-to-date formats, it is faithful to field sound and Takasina rank playback is actualized. < Corresponding format > - DTS-ES - DTS96/24 - DTS Neo:6 - DTS - Dolby Digital EX - Dolby Digital - AAC - Dolby Pro Logic IIx Dolby Pro Logic IIx, with 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝峨ヵ繧ｩ繝ｼ 繝槭ャ繝・which former Dolby Pro LogicII furthermore was upgraded, choosing former stereo music and the 5.1ch movie contents with whichever of 6.1 or 7.1 channels, is the new technology which you can experience. This Dolby Pro Logic IIx which furthermore advanced the matrix decoding processing technique which Dolby Pro Logic II and furthermore EX was adopted Dolby digitally, is superior at one time the extent which is not being natural, by using for the playback of music and the movie program, seamless actualizes surround sound. * Other functions - Crossover variable function of 繧ｵ繝悶え繝ｼ 349;上・(40/60/80/100/120/150/200/250Hz) - Muting level setting possibility(- XXINF /-40dB/-20dB) - For main power source ON/OFF and respectively with one for ON/STANBY the switch becoming independent, equipping - The 繧ｪ繝ｼ繝医し 349;ｩ繧ｦ繝ｳ繝峨 Δ繝ｼ繝・function which can be set to 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝峨Δ繝ｼ繝・ which is optimum to the signal which is input automatically - When processing of the image signal (the line doubler and the like) it did at outside and the like, loading the audio delay function which revises the little gap of sound and the image which occur.(Maximum of 6 frames) - Input terminal equipment outside analog 8ch - The ounce clean display function which can do various setting simply < Audio section > * Power amplifier section - Rated output/ Front 100W+100W, center 100W, 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝・100W+100W and 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝峨ヰ繝・け 100W+100W (8 ﾎｩ, 20Hz-20kHz and THD0.05%) Front 135W+135W, center 135W, 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝・135W+135W and 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝峨ヰ繝・け 135W+135W (6 ﾎｩ, 1kHz and THD0.7%) - Utility installed capacity (6 ﾎｩ, EIAJ)/ Front: 150W + 150W, center: 150 W, 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝・ 150W + 150W and 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝峨ヰ繝・け : 150 W + 150W - Output terminal/center & 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝・& 繧ｵ繝ｩ繧ｦ繝A 395;繝峨ヰ繝・け : 6 - 16 ﾎｩ, front: [ A and B ] 6 - 16 ﾎｩ, [ A + B ] 8 - 16 ﾎｩ - Input sensitivity/impedance/200mV/47k ﾎｩ - Signal-noise ratio/102dB (at the time of TONE DEFEAT ON) - Frequency characteristic/10Hz - 100kHz (+1dB and -3dB) (at the time of TONE DEFEAT ON) * 繝輔か繝弱う繧A 395;繝ｩ繧､繧ｶ繝 ｼ section(PHONO input REC OUT) - Input sensitivity/150mV - RIAA deviation/20Hz - 20kHz: ﾂｱ1dB - Signal-noise ratio/74dB (at the time of JIS-A and 5mV input) - Distortion factor/0.03% (1kHz, at the time of 3V output) - Rated output/installed capacity/150mV/8V < Video section > * Standard image terminal - Input/output level/impedance/1Vp-p/75 ﾎｩ - Frequency characteristic/5Hz - 10MHz (0dB, -3dB) * S image terminal - Input/output level/impedance/Y:1Vp-p/75 ﾎｩ, C:0.286Vp-p/75 ﾎｩ - Frequency characteristic/5Hz - 10MHz (0dB, -3dB) * Color difference (component) image terminal - Input/output level/impedance/Y:1Vp-p/75 ﾎｩ, PB/CB:0.7Vp-p/75 ﾎｩ, PR/CR:0.7Vp-p/75 ﾎｩ - Frequency characteristic/DC - 100MHz (0dB, -3dB) < Input/output terminal > * Audio system - Audio input terminal: 11 systems, input outside 8ch: 1 system, optical digital input: 5 systems, coaxial digital input: 2 systems - 7.1ch pre- out: 1 system, wreck out: 3 systems, optical digital output: 2 systems * Video system - Composite input: 7 systems, S video input: 7 systems, component input: 3 systems (RCA 1, D terminal 2) - Composite output: 3 systems, S video output: 3 systems, component output: 2 systems (RCA 1, D terminal 1) * Control terminal system - RS232C: 1 system, trigger output: 2 systems < Synthesis > - Power source/AC100V 50/60Hz - Electric power consumption/260W (when standing by under 1W) - Maximum external size/W434ﾃ幽171ﾃ優429mm - Mass/13.5kg

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Uhmmm !

Denon Link er ikke så interessant for mig da jeg har 2200. Det kunne godt blive min næste receiver!

Hvis bare man kunne få en klap til de stik!

Man kan se på siden at denon kommer med en DVD recoreder med HD og den bruger DVD Ram! Underligt! Mon deres dvdafspiller undstøtter ram? Gør 2200 ?

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Jeg synes at 2805 er ualmindelig grim uden klap på.  Alt for stort display!

Jeg har sagt det før, men jeg siger det igen! Det er møghamrende ærgeligt at 3805 ikke udkommer i guld udenfor Asien!

Dumme Denon! *slår Denon hvor det gør ondt*

Udover det elsker jeg mine Denon produkter!

pulse83net skrev: Jeg synes at 2805 er ualmindelig grim uden klap på.  Alt for stort display! Jeg har sagt det før, men jeg siger det igen! Det er møghamrende ærgeligt at 3805 ikke udkommer i guld udenfor Asien! Dumme Denon! *slår Denon hvor det gør ondt* Udover det elsker jeg mine Denon produkter!

Det er vel muligt at bestille en 3805 fra Asien???

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Jannick skrev: Det er vel muligt at bestille en 3805 fra Asien???

Det er det vel. Men koster det ikke kassen at importere?

Der er jo både fragt og told, så jo det koster nok nogler knapper.

Tilgengæld er receiveren nok en del billigere derover.

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for at tage noget tideligere diskuteret op, så vil jeg blot give mit besyv med på den fjernbetjening, det er det lækreste jeg har set i mange år!!! B&O kan godt begynde at ryste i bukserne!! (selvom de har hver sin målgruppe...) 

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Krone siger du? nej den har jeg ikke på hovedet, den står der med skriften "DC300"

Ja den er fandme lækker! Tror i man kan købe sådan en fætter seperat?... Og virker den til 3803?

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Jannick skrev: Ja den er fandme lækker! Tror i man kan købe sådan en fætter seperat?... Og virker den til 3803?

Og 3802?

Jannick skrev: Der er jo både fragt og told, så jo det koster nok nogler knapper. Tilgengæld er receiveren nok en del billigere derover.

Prisgæt er ca. 12 - 13K. Vejl. pris i Japan er 150.000 - 157.500 Yen. Kursen den 3.5.2004 er 5,6584 hvilket giver en pris på ca. 8.500 til 9.000. Hertil skal lægges told (kender ikke satsen, men lad os sige 10%) svarende til ca. 900 kr. + 25% moms 2.300 - 2.500 kr. Prisen er så mellem 11.700 - 12.400 kr. + fragt + besværet med at finde en forhandler der vil sende til DK. (og så skal den vel også lige tilpasses danske strømforhold)

God fornøjelse!!

Fjernbetjeningen

Fjernbetjeningen vil sandsynligvis virke til tidligere Denon produkter samt have mulighed for at lære andre remoter - kan ikke se noget problem med det. Mon ikke det er muligt at få en ekstra - hvis nu man kender en der har en AVR-3805 og uheldigvis har "fået den væk".

Jeg håber da at jeg kan købe en ny remomte til min forstærker hvis jeg får den gamle væk

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