Med hensyn til HTPC og de nye formater er denne tråd ret interessant. Til dem som ikke kender til TheaterTek er ham Andrew fyren, som poster på side 2, skaberen af programmet og han ved hvad han taler om (selvom han som regl er meget forsigtig med overhovedet at udtale sig).

http://www.theatertek.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=9303&p age=2

Og udfra om det ene eller andet format vinder eller ej er den her tråd interessant:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4782953.stm

 

Jeg kan ikke finde linken, men jeg leste i går at svært mange af den nye HD-DVD filmerne der kommer vil ha Dolby True Master lyd, og det ryktes også om at firmware 2.0 for Toshibaen vil enable multichannel support for DTM.

Jeg har også lest at man har valgt at bruge det større dynamikområdet som de nye lydformatene har til mere dynamik  

http://www.dvdfile.com/index.php?option=com_content&task =view&id=5570&Itemid=3

Jeg gleder mig vildt til at se om anlægget kan leve op til de nye kravene, eller om det vil gå i kompression. Jeg tror uanset jeg køber en sub ekstra for at være på den sikre siden  Kompression er også kendt som "the silent killer" og du vil sjeldent lægge merke til det før du hører den aktuelle filmscenen på at anlæg der ikke går i kompression.

Så som det ser ud i dag heller jeg mest i mod at købe en HD-DVD afspiller, Blueray er helt enkelt for dyrt. Jeg ser virkelig frem til Europa lanseringen, og jeg kan ikke helt riktig se nogen grund for hvorfor man ikke skal købe en HD-DVD afspiller selv om man for det meste af tiden vil bruge den til at se DVD. HD-DVD er nuh!

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Citér: As I discovered with Warner Home Video’s HD DVD releases, Paramount has enhanced the dynamic range.  Dialog seems lower, forcing the audio gain to be kicked up by 6 to 10 dB for amplitude equity with DVD.  And that pushes up the maximum possible level of sound effects by the same amount.  Consequently, the audio is that much more dramatic and involving.

Dvs at anlægget dit vil belastes som minimum 4x hårdere end ved DVD. Så det er ikke bare billedsiden der skal opgraderes i forbindelse med dette formatskiftet, jeg tror AV branchen går lyse tider i møde :)

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ManicMiner skrev: Citér: As I discovered with Warner Home Video’s HD DVD releases, Paramount has enhanced the dynamic range.  Dialog seems lower, forcing the audio gain to be kicked up by 6 to 10 dB for amplitude equity with DVD.  And that pushes up the maximum possible level of sound effects by the same amount.  Consequently, the audio is that much more dramatic and involving. Dvs at anlægget dit vil belastes som minimum 4x hårdere end ved DVD. Så det er ikke bare billedsiden der skal opgraderes i forbindelse med dette formatskiftet, jeg tror AV branchen går lyse tider i møde :)

 

Kan du fordybe det lidt mere med hensyn til belasting af anlægget?

Den nye firmware er nu ude til HD-DVD

Så nu er der er der mulighed for Dolby TrueHD i 5.1 !!

Derudover skulle 720p outputtet - efter sigende - være fixet.

Og hvad er dommen så?! Hvordan lyder True HD? 

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Raskolnikov skrev: Og hvad er dommen så?! Hvordan lyder True HD?

Smed "Training Day" i afspilleren her i eftermiddags - og Dolby TrueHD lyder fa*** godt!  

Dynamik og mikrodetaljer - wow!

Og her skal man huske på, at Dolby Digtal Plus i forvejen lyder afsindigt godt (og en del bedre end DD og dts). Men lyden tager altså endnu et spring med TrueHD

Uhh det lyder godt! Glæder mig selv til at smide det gennem min receiver en dag via analog input. Det er noget der virker! 

Er Dolby True HD helt Lossless eller hvordan?

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Raskolnikov skrev: Er Dolby True HD helt Lossless eller hvordan?

Hvis man tager Dolbys ord for gode varer -  så er svaret ja

http://www.dolby.com/promo/HD/trueHD.html

Title: 20th Century Fox Blu-ray Releases (IMDb: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)
Starring: Various
Released: 14th November 2006
SRP: USD39.98/CAD49.98

Further Details:
Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment has announced a new wave of Blu-ray Disc titles that will be released worldwide throughout November 2006. Those titles will include: Behind Enemy Lines, Fantastic Four, Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut), Kiss of the Dragon, The Omen (666), The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Speed, and The Transporter. They will first appear in Japan on 10th November, then North America, Europe and Australia on 14th November. Each title will have AVC (MPEG4) video and HD "Lossless" Audio, with unique special features. Here's a list of features with appropriate information:

* Behind Enemy Lines: Marked as one of the studio's first three BD-J releases, it features DTS HD Lossless Master Audio and MPEG 4 compression. The disc also includes commentaries by Director John Moore, Editor Martin Smith, and Producers John Davis and Wyck Godfrey, as well as selectable HD trailers of upcoming BD releases.

* Fantastic Four: Presented with DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, the HDMV Blu-Ray Disc boasts commentaries by Ioan Gruffud, Jessica Alba, Chris Evans, Michael Chiklis and Julian McMahon, and selectable HD trailers of upcoming BD releases.

* Kingdom Of Heaven (Director's Cut): To accommodate the full 3 hour and 42 minute run time of Ridley Scott's Director's cut version of his epic masterpiece is one of the industry's first dual-layer BD releases and is authored in HDMV presented with DTS HD Lossless Master Audio.

* Kiss of the Dragon: Authored in HDMV with DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, it includes commentaries by Chris Nash, Bridget Fonda, and Jet Li, as well as selectable HD trailers of upcoming BD releases.

* The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: One of the industry's most advanced BD releases, it is authored in BD-J with DTS HD Lossless Master Audio and AVC (MPEG 4 compression) and includes commentaries by the cast and crew, a unique search index which allows the viewer to sort scenes from the movie into 72 categories ranging from actor (e.g., Shane West, Sean Connery) to character (e.g., Allan Quarterman, Agent Tom Sawyer) to locations (e.g., Paris, Venice), among others. Additional features include an interactive first person shooter game boasting 12 unique play modes, up to 99 bookmarks, an animated pop-up trivia track, and HD trailers of upcoming BD releases.

* The Omen (666): Authored in HDMV with DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, it includes commentary by John Moore, Glenn Williamson and Dan Zimmerman, two featurettes and two extended scenes plus a BD-exclusive animated pop-up trivia track entitled "The Devil's Footnotes," which explores the history of the triple sixes (666).

* Speed: This BD-J release boasts DTS HD Lossless Master Audio and MPEG 4 compression. Special features include commentary tracks and commentary chapter selections by Jan De Bont, Graham Yost, and Mark Gordon, as well as an animated pop-up trivia track, up to 99 bookmarks, a 56-category search index and a java game entitled, Speed: Take Down, touting six game play modes. The title also includes HD trailers for upcoming BD releases.

* The Transporter: Authored in HDMV and presented with DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, the Blu-Ray Disc features commentaries by Actor Jason Statham and Producer Steven Chasman, in addition to host of selectable HD trailers of upcoming BD releases.


Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will also be announcing their first concurrent DVD/BD release, which will be Ice Age: The Meltdown - authored in HDMV and presented with DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, this title will be released on 13th November in Australia and some European countries, whilst it gets a North American release on 21st November.




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http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/fox-blu-ray-disc-rele ases.html

Dual Layer BD Til Kingdom of Heaven. Jeg vidste man kunne regne med fox.

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TJa, har været Blu-ray tilhægner i lang tid men må indrømme min tro har vaklet lidt pga problemerne med for høj pris, kun en og dårlig afspiller og så elendig billedkvalitet ift HD-DVD.

Men det ser ganske fornuftigt ud nu, nu er der både DL BD på vej og film med et ordentligt codec. Nu mangler vi bare nogle flere afspillere og film. Der skal man lige tænke på, at der faktisk er flere afspillere på vej til Blu-ray end der er til HD-DVD.

I sidste ende vil jeg dog se tiden an men engang i slutningen af året når 2. generation af Blu-ray afspillere skulle komme kunne det godt være jeg ville springe på. Hvis prisen, billedkvaliteten og udvalget er godt nok. Der skal dog ikke være nogen tvivl om, at det er MEGET spændende, at se hvad der sker.

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20th Century Fox Home Entertainment today is expected to announce an ambitious slate of Blu-ray Disc (BD) titles, becoming the last of the five big studios supporting the next-generation optical-disc format to unveil specific releases and release dates.

The nine titles will be released worldwide, not just in North America. Topping the list: Ice Age: The Meltdown, which will be released the same day as the standard DVD, Nov. 21 in the United States and Canada and the week of Nov. 13 in Australia and select European countries.

Also on the list: the director’s cut of Ridley Scott’s Kingdom of Heaven, due Nov. 14 in North America, Australia and Europe and June 10 in Japan. The release will be one of the industry’s first dual-layer BDs, to accommodate the nearly four-hour running time.

“I reviewed [the film] on Blu-ray Disc, and I was astounded,” Scott said. “It was like looking through a window of clarity. It was the most impressive thing I’ve ever seen.”

Coming to stores on the same day are the seven other Fox titles: Behind Enemy Lines, Fantastic Four, Kiss of the Dragon, The Omen (666), The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Speed and The Transporter.

In the United States, all titles will list for $39.98 — about $10 more than initial BD releases by Lionsgate, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment and Warner Home Video. Unlike most of the early Blu-ray releases from other studios, a number of Fox titles take full advantage of the format’s high-definition technology and Java-based interactivity, with AVC (MPEG-4 compression) and HD “Lossless” Audio.

Fox titles with AVC are Behind Enemy Lines, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Speed.

Only one other studio, Buena Vista Home Entertainment, is releasing BD titles with the advanced codec: Eight Below and Great Raid, both due Sept. 19.

Fox also is expected to announce today the release of four BD titles from MGM, which it is now distributing. The Usual Suspects and Windtalkers are due Nov. 28, followed on Dec. 5 by Rocky and Bulletproof Monk.

The timing of the Fox and MGM releases coincides with the expected release of the Sony PlayStation 3 video game console, which Blu-ray backers believe will give the fledgling format the momentum to soar past rival HD DVD.

“Blu-ray is the superior high-definition format,” Dunn said. “Come this holiday season, it will be evident that it is really the only choice for consumers who want to enjoy pre-recorded high-definition content at home. It’ll be that simple. It fully delivers on the promise of a next-generation format. Blu-ray represents the bright future of the $50 billion global home entertainment industry and the inevitable successor to the incredibly popular DVD.”

Five of the six major studios — all but Universal Studios Home Entertainment, which is only supporting the HD DVD format — have now announced titles and release dates for BD, as has Lionsgate.

HD DVD, aside from Universal, is being supported by Paramount Home Entertainment and Warner Home Video, both of which also are supporting BD.
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http://www.homemediaretailing.com/news/html/breaking_article .cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=9606

Man må sige at BD slår igen nu!


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Kan vi evt. ændre trådens navn til Blu Ray vs HD DVD eller noget? Da det er mere passende. 

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Toshiba har nu sluppet nyheden om Europeiske HD-DVD afspillere, og det til priser hvor alle kan være med

http://www.hdbeat.com/2006/09/01/toshibas-hd-e1-and-hd-xe1-h d-dvd-players-for-europe-1080p-hdmi/

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For at høre Dolby TrueHD skal lydkortet og en surround receiver understøtte dette format?

Angel skrev: For at høre Dolby TrueHD skal lydkortet og en surround receiver understøtte dette format?

Nej, du kan også kører 5.1 analog ud af HD-DVD afspilleren (Blu-Ray afspillere har ikke en dekoder)

Nu skal jeg godt nok have en HTPC med en blu-ray afspiller på længere sigt, men det ville være rart at vide inden jeg går ud og køber mig en surround receiver, hvor der ikke står Dolby TrueHD, men Dolby ES og alle de andre dekoder osv.

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Så det du siger er altså, at jeg ikke skal bekymkre mig om dette? Mit lydkort er et TerraTec Phase 24W og understøtter AC3, Dolby Digital og DTS formaterne via den digital udgang og hvis jeg vælger en surround receiver, der under specifikationer står Dolby 3 stereo, Dolby Digital, DTS-ES-decorder, DTS Neo:6, DTS-ES Matrix 6.1, Dolby Pro Logic, DTS 96/24, Dolby Pro Logic II, DTS-ES 6.1 Discrete, Dolby Pro Logic IIx, DTS-decorder, Dolby Digital Surround EX og ikke Dolby TrueHD eller DTS HD Lossless Master Audio, så understøtter dette alligevel, når man smækker en blu-ray film på HTPC'en?

Jeg tror jdg1 hentyder til, at Toshiba HD-DVD afspilleren selv dekoder HD lydsporet på de respektive discs og sender signalet ud af 5.1 udgangen og ind via 5.1 indgangen på forstærkeren. Det er i denne sammenhæng underordnet hvad forstærkeren understøtter da dens dekodere bliver bypassed.

Med et barebones PC drev er det en anden sag - hverken HD-DVD eller Blu-ray drev kan dekode lydsporene - forståeligt nok. Der skal et lydkort til som kan dekode HD formaterne og sende det ud via 5.1, eller en forstærker som kan dekode signalet (transporteret fra PC'en som et digitalt signal via HDMI 1.3) istedet. Ingen af delene findes pt på markedet, men det er blot et spørgsmål om tid.

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Jeg tænkte nok, at det ikke kunne lade sig gøre sådan. Så må jeg have opgraderet lydkortet, når der til den tid kommer et nyt med HD lyd.