Raskolnikov skrev: Ja det er jo kun rygter, og http://ps3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=16209 Men vi får se.

Nix, den er nu altså god nok

Blueray får det nok svært.

Til "inspiration" en lille notits fra hifi-musik: http://www.hifi-musik.dk/?page=visnyhed&id=165

Jeg er snart ligeglad, bare vi får ét format!

L.B. skrev: Jeg er snart ligeglad, bare vi får ét format!

HØRT!

Jeg har tidligere bekymret mig meget om hvilket format der vandt (og håbet på blue-ray). Men jeg ser hellere at blue-ray dør med det samme end vinder efter flere års kamp!

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L.B. skrev: Jeg er snart ligeglad, bare vi får ét format!

Tror stadigvæk ikke det bliver til noget (det ender lige som DVD-Audio/SACD), folk er ligeglad med et nyt dvd format, selvom de kan se billedet er meget bedre, så for det dem ikke til at skifte. Plus det at alm. DVD film kan fås til 50,-kr til 100,-kr stykket, så gider folk ikke betale 200-300,-kr for en HD-DVD.

Så er der en dato.

Fra den 23. maj kan man købe Samsungs BD-P1000 Blu-ray afspiller, og kort tid efter kommer Pioneers BDP-H1 og Sonys BDP-S1.

At Microsoft ikke understøtter formatet (fordi det ville kræve 3. parts software i Windows - nemlig Java) har ingen betydning, da de jo ikke
producerer computerne. I øvrigt er det lang tid siden de valgte side, og HP har ikke droppet Blu-ray, men understøtter begge formater, så den
linkede nyhed fra HiFi & Surround er noget underlig.

dfms skrev: DVD film kan fås til 50,-kr til 100,-kr stykket, så gider folk ikke betale 200-300,-kr for en HD-DVD.

Hvor ser du nye film til 50-100,- ??

lunddal skrev: Hvor ser du nye film til 50-100,- ??

http://www.dvdoo.com/dvdoo/tilbud.asp

bare lige for at nævne en!

lunddal skrev: Hvor ser du nye film til 50-100,- ??

www.tpmusik.dk har også nogle tilbud kørende, som lokkemad.

De har dog ikke en webbutik, så der skal man selv defilibrere sig hen til butikken (eller hvad det nu hedder, når man har fået en tur med startkablerne).

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Hvem er det der siger dette? Er det sony selv eller ham der har skrevet artiklen?

Fra www.endgadget.com

Blu-Ray hardware, titles to hit stores May 23rd

Posted Feb 27th 2006 8:00PM by Evan Blass
Filed under: HDTV, Home Entertainment

After years of waiting and hundreds of Engadget posts, the much-anticipated but seemingly just-out-of-reach high definition optical disc technology known as Blu-ray has finally, at long last, been given an official launch date by Sony. Early-adopters, you have just under three months to lie, cheat, and steal your way to getting off on Tuesday, May 23, because that's when you'll need to be on a 12-hour line at Best Buy to get your anxious little mitts on a Samsung BD-P1000 and eight critically acclaimed launch titles such as "Resident Evil Apocalypse," "XXX," and "A Knight's Tale"- with another eight classics like "Species" and "SWAT" to follow on June 13th. Also available soon after launch will be more Blu-ray hardware, including Pioneer's BDP-HD1 ,Sony's BDP-S1, and several BD-equipped Vaio PCs, also from Sony. As we'd heard before, the Samsung player will retail for around a grand, and Sony will be charging $23.45 for new flicks and $17.95 for catalog titles.


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Raskolnikov skrev:   Hvem er det der siger dette? Er det sony selv eller ham der har skrevet artiklen?

Det er da helt sikkrt ikke SONY selv for det er ikke ligefrem god reklame. Det virker mest af alt som tankespind fra en af de ansatte  hos HiFi Musik.

 

lunddal skrev: At Microsoft ikke understøtter formatet (fordi det ville kræve 3. parts software i Windows - nemlig Java) har ingen betydning, da de jo ikke producerer computerne. I øvrigt er det lang tid siden de valgte side, og HP har ikke droppet Blu-ray, men understøtter begge formater, så den linkede nyhed fra HiFi & Surround er noget underlig.

Hvordan i verden kan understøttelsen af Blue-ray have noget med java at gøre? Den nægter jeg simpelthen at købe.

Fenris skrev: Raskolnikov skrev:   Hvem er det der siger dette? Er det sony selv eller ham der har skrevet artiklen? Det er da helt sikkrt ikke SONY selv for det er ikke ligefrem god reklame. Det virker mest af alt som tankespind fra en af de ansatte  hos HiFi Musik.

Nemlig!
Meget usagligt og ren spekulation,...En svipser.


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Raskolnikov skrev: Fenris skrev: Raskolnikov skrev:   Hvem er det der siger dette? Er det sony selv eller ham der har skrevet artiklen? Det er da helt sikkrt ikke SONY selv for det er ikke ligefrem god reklame. Det virker mest af alt som tankespind fra en af de ansatte  hos HiFi Musik.   Nemlig! Meget usagligt og ren spekulation,...En svipser.

Der er vel ikke meget tankespind i de vedholdende og plausibe forlydender vedrørende forsinkelse af lanceringen af Playstation 3 og at flere og flere producenter meddeler deres støtte til HD-DVD (i hvert fald i forhold til tidligere).

kyhn skrev: lunddal skrev: Hvor ser du nye film til 50-100,- ?? http://www.dvdoo.com/dvdoo/tilbud.asp bare lige for at nævne en!

Jeg sagde nye - altså nye udgivelser. Jeg ved godt at man kan købe knap så nye film på tilbud alle steder.

Skunk skrev: Hvordan i verden kan understøttelsen af Blue-ray have noget med java at gøre? Den nægter jeg simpelthen at købe.

Al interaktivitet i Blu-ray (menuer m.m.) er skrevet i Java (BD-Java for at være præcis), så derfor skal afspilleren (soft- eller hardwarebaseret)
understøtte dette.

Jeg siger ikke at dette er årsagen, men MS er ikke ligefrem glade for Java.

En der har set BD, med pics.
http://forums.dvdfile.com/showthread.php?t=57637

Flere indtryk af BD;
Thanks to the OP, I actually went to Starpower and saw the future.

They were running a Blu-Ray player on a 56"-62" 1080p Sony widescreen (that was $4999, if that helps identify it).

I can safely say that BR looks really good. They were running a Demo Disc that had the Spider-Man 2 trailer on it, a clip from Spider-Man 2 (with Doc Ock stranding Aunt May on the side of the building and the ensuing fight) and a splith screen comparison from Lawrence of Arabia that was composed of mainly far off wide shots (the race scene, I was told).

The left of the screen was "DVD" and the right was "BR". When the objects panned over to the right from the left, you could instantly see how clearer and crisper it was. The sound was down, so I can not comment on it's audio.

Of course a Sony rep was there, and I asked him How long does he think it will take to kill HD-DVD, or, for HD-DVD to kill Blu-Ray, because I'm not buying either until the other is kaput.

He had a stock answer for this, it seemed. He said, "Well, BR has many studios and factories behind it, and many of the studios and factories that back HD-DVD are also making BR. These companies have also said that their HD-DVD products will not come out until their BR ones do."

"Of the companies behind HD-DVD, only 3 are HD-DVD exclusive. Microsoft, Toshiba, and Universal Studios."

But he didn't give me a time frame in which BR will kill HD-DVD.

And they had a nice brochure that I came back with. Just hits bullets points, but it's neat to have it.

So thats my review of Blu-Ray technology.

CFG!

og HD DVD
http://www.dvdfile.com/index.php?option=com_content&task =view&id=5321&Itemid=11


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og mere;
http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/thomasnorton/

These are the main data:

    * All first titles are expected to be limited to a single layer.
    * There are two Blu-ray modes: Movie Mode (used for high definition films) and BD-J Mode (a fully programmable mode that includes interactive features, like games and Internet connectivity). Both modes can be used on the same disc.
    * Sony and MGM titles will be encoded on the discs at 1080/24p. The user will set the player to convert this native resolution as required to match the capability of his or her display.
    * At this time Sony has no immediate plans to implement the Image Constraint Token (ICT).
    * All of the Sony and MGM titles will initially be encoded using MPEG-2, at a variable bit rate, but up to a maximum of 30Mb/sec.
    * When other codecs exceed MPEG-2 at all data rates, Sony will begin using them.
    * On the audio side, all Sony and MGM titles will include both conventional Dolby Digital and DTS soundtracks. Dolby data rate is still unconfirmed. DTS data rate will be 1.5Mb/sec. Additionally all Sony/MGM releases will include a 5.1 uncompressed PCM audio track.
    * The first Sony and MGM titles will each have a hidden Easter Egg containing several setup test patterns— a sweep, a standard SMPTE pattern including, among other things, a PLUGE, color bars, and a resolution monoscope. These patterns can be accessed by entering 7669 on your Blu-ray player's remote (7669 is S-O-N-Y on a telephone).


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His impressions of the visual demo:

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The most exciting part of the event involved demonstrations of Blu-ray using Sony's flagship 4K D-Cinema SXRD projector producing a peak light output of 14 foot-Lamberts onto a 23' wide screen. A split-screen image was used to compare DVD with Blu-ray, and the program source was a trailer from the upcoming film Click. It was no contest; the stunning Blu-ray was a 16-ounce New York strip sirloin next to the DVD's ground chuck. This wasn't entirely a surprise, given the size of the screen. Another split-screen presentation compared the 400Mb/sec HD master with the Blu-ray file mastered at 25-30Mb/sec. Here, only the tiniest differences were visible on film grain and the finest picture details—and we had to freeze the image to (barely) spot those.

Click was shot using the new Sony Panavision Genesis 1080/24p HD video cameras. The detail in the image, as seen on Blu-ray and presumably transferred directly from a digital file, was incredible. A final demonstration, of a clip from the conventionally filmed A Knight's Tale was not quite so jaw-dropping, but still looked better than most theatrical film presentations in all but the very best theaters equipped with state-of-the-art projectors and pristine prints.

   
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At this time Sony has no immediate plans to implement the Image Constraint Token (ICT).


Does this mean that they won't prohibit 1080i over component at all or they won't even allow the choice? If all the Sony title are 1080i over component, that is a HUGE arrow in the BR quiver.


Does this mean that they won't prohibit 1080i over component at all or they won't even allow the choice? If all the Sony title are 1080i over component, that is a HUGE arrow in the BR quiver.



ICT (aka downrezzing over component) is an option AACS gives the studios. The studios may use it or not at will, and even on a title-by-title basis.

Thomas Norton will surely explain it better than me:

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At this time Sony has no immediate plans to implement the Image Constraint Token (ICT). The ICT is the part of the AACS copy protection scheme (used in both Blu-ray and HD DVD) that forces the player to down-rez its analog component video output from the disc's 1920x1080 high definition resolution to 960x540p. The result: you will get high definition only from the player's digital video output (HDMI or DVI). Early HDTV adopters of component only sets would then be limited to standard definition 540p from their fancy new players.

But all of these early Sony and MGM titles will produce full high definition from both the analog component and digital video outputs of a Blu-ray player. Whether or not to turn on the ICT, however, will rest with each studio and may be done on a title-by-title basis. How other studios will implement this feature in their releases remains to be seen.


Of course, they don't say they won't ever use it. For example, if in a couple years time, hypothetical pirates began using the analogue outputs to create their bootlegs, then Sony could reconsider and decide to use ICT for their subsequent titles.


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 Hd-dvd / Blu-Ray: LIVE Director's commentary
Figured I might as well post about one of the new special features.

Hd-dvd / Blu-Ray will both offer live director commentary at scheduled times. For example, if a director is scheduled to talk for 8pm on a given night all you have to do is use the ethernet connection to hook to the internet, pop your disc into the player and hook up to your internet service then wait for the show. I'm sure they'll keep them recorded as well if you miss them.
Lyder meget cool, men det vil vel betyde at man skal side oppe sent om natten hvis det forgår i US. ;)

Og en lille oversigt over lydfomaterne;
Dolby Digital Plus vs. current Dolby Digital

    * Supports true discreet 7.1 channels (technically, up to 13.1, but HD-DVD and Blu-Ray only support 8 audio channels)
    * up to 6 Mbps (vs. 448 Kbps)
    * can downconvert to Dolby Digital for backwards compatibility
    * mandatory for HD-DVD. optional for Blu-Ray
    * S/PDIF does not have enough bandwidth to carry it. HDMI and FireWire can.


Dolby TrueHD

    * large number of channels (unspecified)
    * lossless
    * supports metadata including dialogue normalization and dynamic range control.
    * mandatory for HD-DVD, optional for Blu-Ray


DTS-HD (which is the new name for DTS++, Premise)

    * virtually unlimited number of channels
    * can downconvert to DTS for backwards compatibility
    * can encode either lossless or lossy
    * Optional for Blu-Ray and HD-DVD


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Jeg modtog nyhedbrev fra DVDsoon.com idag. og der var blueray titler imellem

her er en liste over blueray titler der kan forudbestilles på dvdsoon nu

http://www.dvdsoon.com/search-results-v2.xml?query-id=http:/ /www.dvdsoon.com/queries/exact-field&field=series&va lue=14&customer-query=Blu-Ray&search-results=true

Fedt at det endeligt kommer, men hvor er min PS3 sådan at jeg kan få nogle film i HD?!!! SOny!=!
off topic, hvem tør bestille der!

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