Bare det ikke bliver sådan at alle skiver skal hente en licens fra nettet før man kan se dem! Hold PC og internet ude at mit hi fi, Tak!

Underligt at vi ikke har set BD folkene gøre noget for at virke stærkere igen. Anonceret PS3, software eller noget...Bare for at vise at de ikke har tænkt sig at give op endnu!

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Nyt Dual format....Jeg ved ikke rigtig. Det ville da være fint hvis man kunne få HD også se dvd i god kvalitet, men jeg frygter for om der er plads nok til begge formater. Kun 15 G til HD/MLP...Vi må se. 4.7 GB er også kun en single layer disc så billedet på dvden vil ihertfald lide!

A new Dual Format DVD has been developed. See story below.

Firms develop dual-format DVDs
New disc can be played on standard or high-definition machines
The Associated Press
Updated: 11:13 a.m. ET Dec. 7, 2004
TOKYO - Japan's Toshiba Corp. and Memory-Tech Corp. said Tuesday they have developed the world's first DVD that can be played on both standard and high-definition DVD players, amid a heated global race to come up with the benchmark for new optical disks.

he discs rely on the HD-DVD format, one of two technologies ompeting to become the world standard for the next generation of high-definition DVDs, which are expected to offer sharper images, the companies, both based in Tokyo, said in joint statement.
HD-DVD has the backing of the DVD Forum, an international association of electronics makers and movie studios, and new DVD players using the format are expected to hit stores by late 2005.
Its competitor, Blu-Ray — backed by Sony Corp., its Hollywood studio and News Corp.'s Fox Entertainment Group Inc. — has more digital programming storage space. But HD-DVD is expected to be cheaper to make because it uses technology closely resembling that used in current DVDs.
It's still unclear which will become the dominant technology.
Tuesday's announcement raises hopes for a way to smooth the transition from the old DVD format to new disc technology, and as more people trade in their old TV sets for newer, higher resolution screens.
Toshiba and Memory-Tech said their disc has a dual-layered surface, which separately stores high-definition and lower resolution data on the same side.
For consumers, that would eliminate the potential headache of having to own two types of DVD players: Old and new DVD players will be able to read all types of HD-DVD discs, though only the newer equipment can take advantage of the higher resolution technology.
The discs, which took six months to develop, will have a memory capacity of 19.7 gigabytes, with 4.7 GB of regular DVD space and 15 GB of high-resolution space, Memory-Tech spokesman Masato Otsuka said.
It's the first market-ready model of a HD-DVD, Toshiba spokeswoman Junko Furuta said. The discs are expected to be ready in late 2005, when Toshiba plans to begin selling an HD-DVD player, recorder, and laptop computer with a built-in HD-DVD disc drive.
Making the discs won't cost any more than the companies now spend on producing current DVDs, Memory-Tech's Otsuka said

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Disney hopper på BD! Kill Bil i BD. Pulp Fiction.
Håber bare de får styr over deres master teknik så vi slippe af med den frygtlige EE-
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DISNEY IN BLU-RAY CAMP
Fox remains on the fence; other studios split
By Paul Sweeting 12/8/2004

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Dec. 8 | The Mouse has developed a taste for Blu-cheese.

Barely a week after Warner Home Video, Universal Studios Home Entertainment and Paramount Home Entertainment announced their support for the HD DVD format, Buena Vista Home Entertainment rocked the industry Wednesday by lining up on the other side of the high-definition format war and backing Sony's Blu-ray Disc standard.

The announcement leaves Hollywood now split virtually down the middle between the two contending high-def standards: Warner, Universal and Paramount are going HD DVD; Sony, Disney and, presumably, MGM are going Blu-ray.

The only major studio yet to declare an allegiance is 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment, which has a foot in both camps through its memberships in the Blu-ray Disc Assn. and the DVD Forum. But it has not committed to releasing product in either format.

Like the three studios supporting HD DVD, Disney's commitment to Blu-ray is non-exclusive.

"One of Disney's key priorities is to take advantage of new technologies to drive innovation and growth in order to create increased value for our shareholders," Disney exec VP and chief strategic officer Peter E. Murphy said. "We believe that Disney's portfolio of outstanding brands and content combined with the Blu-ray technology offers a major step forward for consumers eager to experience high-definition content."

Although Disney has long hinted at a preference for Blu-ray, the announcement is a blow to Warner and its HD DVD allies, who had hoped their own high-profile embrace of the Toshiba-developed standard would knock Blu-ray out of the game and avert a format war.

But with Disney now in its corner, the Sony-led Blu-ray camp is certain to forge ahead with it plans to launch the format in late 2005 or early 2006.

With HD DVD slated to hit stores around the same time, consumers could be faced with two incompatible formats, each offering titles not available on the other.

BVHE president Bob Chapek, however, rejected the notion that the Mouse's decision makes an all-out format war more likely.

"I think the chances for a format war are actually smaller today than they were yesterday," Chapek said. "I think this gives the two [hardware] sides more impetus to get together and work out a unified format. Up to now, the division has been hardware vs. software. But now that you have division between the studios, I think there's more reason than ever to come together."

Whether a unified format is even possible, however, is a matter of dispute.

Blu-ray discs are slightly thicker than HD DVD discs, making physical convergence difficult. The two formats also use different methods to read data off the discs.

At stake for both sides is potentially billions of dollars in patent licensing fees, making each side reluctant to give up its proprietary technology for format peace.

In the meantime, Chapek said, Disney chose to go with what it regards as the superior technology.

"At the end of the day, the consumer has to be happy with this thing," he said. "We think Blu-ray offers a more enhanced entertainment experience. If there isn't a unified standard, and you believe that the best format will win, then you have to go with the most capable format."

In addition to offering greater storage capacity on a single disc, Blu-ray developers agreed to incorporate an "applications" layer into the format, allowing the studios to add interactive features to their high-def discs.

"Sony was much more receptive to our requirement of greater interactivity," Chapek said. "I think we need to offer consumers as much of a leap over the current technology as DVD was over VHS, not just a better picture."

He also cited Blu-ray's greater support among hardware makers, which he said would help build the installed base of Blu-ray players more rapidly than the HD DVD base.

"The larger the installed base, the bigger the market for us," he said.

Chapek said Disney did not receive any payment or other monetary inducement to side with Blu-ray.

"I know there have been rumors out there about that kind of thing, but it just didn't happen," he said.

Buena Vista's initial release plans for Blu-ray call for a mix of catalog titles and "selected" new releases, Chapek said.

Not likely to appear quickly on Blu-ray however, are any of Disney's animated classics.

"Those are the crown jewels. You won't see them until there's enough of a base of players out there to maximize those assets," Chapek said. "What you'll see in the beginning are titles that are likely to appeal to early adopters."

As for the timing, "We plan to be there when the hardware is," Chapek said. "That could be late 2005 or 2006. The way things look right now, 2006 is probably a more realistic target."


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Så kommer de første meldinger om multi-afspillere:

http://www.comon.dk/index.php/news/show/id=20420

Mon ikke de øvrige følger med ??

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Ingeniøren skrev: Så kommer de første meldinger om multi-afspillere:

Der står ikke multi-afspillere. Der står:

"Selskabet oplyser, at både afspillere til HD DVD-formatet og Blu-ray-formatet forventes klar til lancering ved slutningen af 2005. "

Altså ikke afspillere til både HD-DVD og Blu-ray, men både afspillere til HD-DVD og Blu-ray. Vigtig forskel...

Skydes, ej benådes!

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Hvor billigt skal et dårligt tv være for at være et godt køb?

Slutningen af 2005..... OK - men gælder det kun markedet i US & Nipsland? Noget tyder på, at f.eks. Sony/DK pt. ikke er interesseret i overhovedet at lade danskerne få færten af, at Blu-ray som teknologi eksisterer (se tråd om Blu-ray på Sony's stand/KT-messe). Tror I, at de har en anden mening om 10-11 måneder? Hvad mon deres strategi er mht. Europa? For da må da være en strategi - ikke?

Mon ikke vi ser det i PS 3, hvis ikke andet. Der går nok laaang tid nu før at HD DVD markedet er sikkert.

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Raskolnikov skrev: Mon ikke vi ser det i PS 3, hvis ikke andet.

Ras, jeg har ikke glemt at maile til Sony vedr. BD vs PS3. Hvornår forventes PS3 på markedet? Måske bliver det et stunt fra producenternes side i stil med det man kunne se mht. progressiv vs interlaced teknik. Mange DVD-afspillere (fra f.eks. Sony) blev solgt i Japan/US med progressiv output, men de europæiske udgaver af de samme modeller manglede sjovt nok denne detalje  Man kunne frygte, at Sony valgte samme metode, når PS3 en gang skal lanceres i Europa.  Herrens veje er - i lighed men de store elektronik-giganter's - uransagelige........

Sommer 06 i EU er planen. Det håber jeg vikrkelig ikke bliver tilfældet! Jeg vil gerne kunne købe BD titler tild den tid.

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JVC har udviklet en hybrid BD/DVD skive:

http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/english/press/2004/bd-dvd.html 

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Hvor billigt skal et dårligt tv være for at være et godt køb?

Otto, TC skrev: JVC har udviklet en hybrid BD/DVD skive: http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/english/press/2004/bd-dvd.html

Fedt - det kan måske bløde overgangen mellem DVD & BD lidt op for forbrugerne - og det er vel det som er meningen 

 

Lad os nu se hvad der sker...

Jeg har netop læst i "Widescreen Review" om diverse "High-Definition" formater som allerede nu er på gaden i østen. Der er tale om de kinesiske formater; HDV (High-Definition Videodisc), EDV og HVD. Desuden har man i Taiwan fra regeringens side sponsoreret et projekt der hedder FVD (Forward Versitile Disc) som også allerede er klar.

EVD og HVD kører med MPEG-2 hvorimod FVD kører med Windows Media 9.

Hvis ikke man snart bliver enige om Blue-Ray eller HD-DVD frygter jeg at begge formater bliver "kørt over" af kineserne...

Seneste up-date i "krigen" mellem Blu-Ray og HD-DVD

http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=352487

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Warner/New Line/HBO/etc. just announced 52 HD-DVD titles for release Q4 '05:

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/Jan/1106003.htm

ABOVE THE LAW
ALEXANDER
ANGELS IN AMERICA (HBO)
AUSTIN POWERS: INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY (NEW LINE)
BATMAN BEGINS
BLADE (NEW LINE)
CATWOMAN
CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY
CONSTANTINE
CONTACT
DARK CITY (NEW LINE)
THE DUKES OF HAZZARD
ERASER
EXECUTIVE DECISION
FINAL DESTINATION (NEW LINE)
FRIDAY (NEW LINE)
FROM THE EARTH TO THE MOON (HBO)
THE FUGITIVE
GOTHIKA
HARD TO KILL
HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE
HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS
HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
HOUSE OF WAX (2005)
THE LAST SAMURAI
THE MASK (NEW LINE)
THE MATRIX
THE MATRIX RELOADED
THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS
MAVERICK
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
THE MUSIC MAN
MYSTIC RIVER
NEXT OF KIN
NORTH BY NORTHWEST
OCEAN'S ELEVEN
OCEAN'S TWELVE
PASSENGER 57
THE PERFECT STORM
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA (2004)
THE PLAYER (NEW LINE)
THE POLAR EXPRESS
RED PLANET
RUSH HOUR (NEW LINE)
SE7EN (NEW LINE)
SOLDIER
THE SOPRANOS (HBO)
SPAWN (NEW LINE)
SWORDFISH
TROY
UNDER SIEGE
U.S. MARSHALS
WILD WILD WEST

Paramount just announced 21 HD-DVD titles for Q4 '05:

http://www.mysan.de/international/article21498.html

THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS
ELIZABETHTOWN
COACH CARTER
ITALIAN JOB
SCHOOL OF ROCK
SKY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW
FORREST GUMP
BRAVEHEART
GHOST
GREASE
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 2
BLACK RAIN
SAVE THE LAST DANCE
SLEEPY HOLLOW
U2 RATTLE & HUM
VANILLA SKY
LARA CROFT: TOMB RAIDER
STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT
WE WERE SOLDIERS

Universal just announced 16 HD-DVD titles, likely for Q1 '06:

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/s...02774126&EDATE=

THE BOURNE SUPREMACY
THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK
VAN HELSING
APOLLO 13
U-571
12 MONKEYS
DUNE
THE THING
END OF DAYS
BACKDRAFT
WATERWORLD
THE BONE COLLECTOR
SPY GAME
PITCH BLACK
CONAN THE BARBARIAN
DANTE'S PEAK

Seven i HD? Nice!!! Er det bye bye BD? 
Ville dog gerne se lidt specs!

Så den anden dag at Toshiba vil sælge en afspiller i 2005 4. kvatal og at prisen bliver ca. 1.000; $.

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@Ras

Måske skulle du poste titlerne som separat tråd i Software-sektionen. Om ikke andet så for at drille alle dem som bliver nødt til at genkøbe en stor del af deres titler som HD-DVD

EDIT: Jeg mente selvfølgelig software-sektionen på DAHF!

 

Ja måske! Underligt at ikke flere lige vil kommenter på dette! Måske skulle man lave en tråd i software. 

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 Jeg tror dog ikke jeg vil opgradere alle mine titler, men nogle er sikre.

Star Wars (Alle)
Matirx ( Alle )
Alle Fincher
Aller Kubrick
Alien 1-3
Leone westerns
Indiana Jones
Godfather
Alle Taratino
GITS 1 og 2
LOTR (Alle)
T1 og T2
The Abyss.
Blade Runner
Die Hard 1

Resten må jeg lige se med...
Jeg vil beholde alle mine Crietion og jeg tvivler på hvor stor forskel det vil gøre på de gamle film, der må man bare vente og se. Jeg er meget glad for disse skiver og jeg vil beholde dem samman med alle mine andrer dvder.

Jeg har købt fem sæsoner af Simpsons indtil nu og jeg tvivler på hvor meget bedre de ville se ud i HD, måske ville de enda se være ud pga. af de grove tegninger...
Der kommer ihvertfald til at gå laaaang tid før jeg hopper på HD vognen. Først skal jeg have en PJ(1080p så den bliver dyr!), så en maskine og en dts / DD + receiver. o.s.v.
Derudover ser det ud som om at der hele tiden vil komme størrer BD disks eller HD DVD disk, det vil betyde bedre og bedre billedetkvalitet, hvis man ikke låser standard som ved dvd. Man må jo også sige stop på et tidspunkt.
De skiver vi få at se snart er kun på 15GB og vil derfor slet ikke vise hvad formatet kan, lidt ligesom dvd i starten. I starten fik vi flippers, single layer, letterbox, Pro logc skiver,,,uden ekstra. Jeg forudser det bliver det samme med det næste format. SUk . Hvis alle bare kunne blive enige om at BD var det bedste format og støtte op om det kunne man begynde at glæde sig. Det er lidt svært nu!
 

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 Hvis det har en interesse er der her en del billeder af BD og HD DVD fra CES 05-Der er så mange at jeg ikke lige gider ligge dem ind her!

http://www.danskhjemmebioforum.dk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=136 977#136977

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Ja hvorfor ikke

http://www.computerworld.dk/default.asp?Mode=2&ArticleID =26587

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Har I læst det her (fra Filmz.dk):

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-5518574.html?tag=zdfd.new sfeed

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